a)
Recent Senate action on 12
Credit Hour Limitation for Students attending Summer School Sessions
Faculty Assembly reviews and discusses actions of the senate.
Recent senate action on summer school limits students to 12 c.h. Exception:
with advisor consultation this limit may be by-passed.
Does assembly wish to re-visit this issue?
Discussion:
V Jenkins: Why is this being done?
Answer: To come in line with how many credits students take
during school term. Also, concern over “dumbing down” classes for
overloaded students; students may not be able to do that well with
that intensive study.
Yet, students have been doing this for years and doing well.
There is a limit of 18 c.h. during the year. What evidence is there
that students are not doing well?
A McEvoy: evidence is anecdotal; students complain that they
have too much work, asking for extensions for papers or reduced level
of writing.
D Murray: can’t a student take up to 15 with permission of
advisor? Yes
S Young: every summer she has not heard anything from students not
being able to do the work. The ones who are good do the work. If we
are creating leaders shouldn’t we be encouraging this kind of work?
J Murphy: Senate makes recommendations to president. The
president would like the summer to reflect more of what the limits
are during year, she is uncomfortable with current policy. That is
why it was brought up.
R Timko: # of credits should = # of weeks: this is the formula.
There has been a very open, fluid policy in the summer. He has also
seen students withdraw because they could not keep up with the amount
of work.
K Thorne: if this forces a 2.0 student to meet with their
advisor, is this a problem?
K Guenther: Last summer a student signed up for 18, she had
to drop down to 12 because registrar would not allow it. Is this policy
already in effect?
President Loeschke: this action is a problem; we have a responsibility
to help students to achieve. She has a concern about quality and believes
12 credits is about right. We should look at data if there is any,
as well as effective advising. Wants to be confident that more than
12 credits would be a good thing for the students. The GPA data may
help her make this decision.
W Yacovissi: This is not an issue for Faculty Assembly; the
issue should be kicked back to AAC, senate and departments.
V Jenkins: students have been allowed a maximum of 9 credits
during 5/6 week sessions.
McEvoy: haven’t advisors played a bigger role because the
students had
to meet with their advisors?
Summer school has had minimal to none advising for students.
R Timko: senate has passed the motion (credit limit can be
exceeded with permission of advisor). President Loeschke has reservations
and has the right not to approve this piece of legislation. The purpose
of this debate is to find out how faculty feel in case legislation
has to be sent back for review.
J Murphy: perhaps it is not data but principle that is driving
this debate.
A McEvoy: would 15 credits as a limit be a good number for
consistency?
D Murray: there is currently no need for the students to
petition. If this is in place it would allow for guidance.
S Young: Students often load up on credits. Making a limit
might discourage our better students from taking classes.
b)
Survey of Satisfaction with Administration/Faculty Communications
on Issues Relating to the University Community
Discussion:
V Jenkins: no one had any input into the change of students
not
having to meet with advisors.
D Siegart: Change driven by Datatel and chairs; the software
will not support the old method; new software makes it much too complicated.
J Murphy: Datatel knows everything, why couldn’t it send
an automated email to advisor to say “student just registered”?
Answer: too complicated
Other comments:
Satisfied with info from administration, not from
IT and registrar.
Satisfied about the drug problem, dissatisfied with how football
was handled.
Dissatisfied that faculty have not been consulted about limitations
on the amount faculty can teach.
Faculty need to make a better effort to find out about where
info is being offered, like the current open meetings on campus.
In last few years there seems to be more of an “us vs them”
mentality.
Administration and faculty do seem to be a little more adversarial
than in the past.
A Gaskievicz: Policies seem to be thrust rather than presented
for discussion. There seem to me more grievances lately than the union
has had in a while (like rules about summer school/faculty teaching
load).
M Launius: we have had so much turnover in upper management…
this explains a lot. We need to all work together more.
A Gaskievicz: would like to see more community, more faculty
involved campus wide (maybe some faculty feel excluded?)
D Seigart: we do need to look in the mirror; as soon as she
stepped into her new role, people started to treat her differently.
She is faculty. She moved into her position to benefit the University.
People seemed to assume the worst because she is now an administrator.
The shift happened amazingly fast. Don’t assume the worst; it is a
2 way street. Appreciates it when she gets a response to something
sent out.
c)
Information Budget Processes or Concerns
President Loeschke: Regarding budget: trying to make every
year as open and transparent as possible. The meetings held provide
opportunities to understand and provide input into the budget. Please
come so there are not any secrets. There will be more meetings in
Jan.
M Reid: if you see any way we can save $ PLEASE pass it along.
Pres. Loeschke: a wonderful possibility to save $ came from
a custodian.
d)
Other
M Launius: Faculty Early Career Development program –
junior faculty often don’t feel empowered to add their voice without
tenure. She wants senior faculty to reassure them that they won’t
lose their job if they disagree with someone.